Miscellanea #116: Sagan, Bigelow, Hoagland, etc.
From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:14:31 -0700
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SAGAN SNAFU
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:30:39 -0400 (EDT)
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/people/s/sagan/
Frm: [Withheld by request]
You quote Sagan as saying "There are 400 billion stars in our galaxy
alone. If just one out of a million of those had planets, and if just
one out of a million of those had life, and if just one out of a
million of those had intelligent life... there would be...
literally... millions of civilizations out there." Have you done the
math on this? One millionth of one millionth of one millionth of 400
billion is less than one!
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AIR ROUTE CORRECTION
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 15:16:11 -0800
Frm: Rich McIntosh <miss163@pacbell.net>
Subject: A factual error on my part
Re: http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1999/mar/d07-001.shtml
When I wrote regarding the UFO sighted by a pilot at 40,000 feet I
screwed up. The headings and altitudes I said were east bound should
have been westbound and vice versa. I know better than to send out
stuff that late at night. Having said that though it further goes
against the allegded sighting. The only west bounders going by the
R4808 restructed areas that close, would be departures out of LA and SF
going east and in June they would never even get close to that 40,000
foot altitude. In fact most would not be out of 30,000 feet.
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SECRET BASE IN CALIFORNIA
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:30:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: secret base in california
Frm: tony costantino <EtrnLuv666@aol.com>
Hi there. It's been a while since I've been on the ufomind list. A
friend of mine who works with Boeing told me there are rumors of an
unknown base somewhere in the vicinity of the palmdale plant. All I
know is that a person who supposedly works at this base has to drive 1
1/2 hours from palmdale itself to get to this base, and logistical
material such as paperwork is left at a remote drop off station.
Anybody heard anything on this topic? Which areas by Edwards or
Palmdale are unexplored?
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GREEN RIVER VETERAN
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:01:46 -0400 (EDT)
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/place/us/ut/greenriver/fieldreport/
Frm: gary <g6102@datacruz.com>
re: green river launch complex and "new" area 51.
while in the army in the late 1960's, i was in a pershing missle
battery that used the green river site to launch pershings from green
river to the white sands range near el paso. based upon the articles
and photos i have seen, this site is NOT a new area 51. it appears
some permenant structures were contructed since i was there.....our
units were totally in the field, in tents and 100% mobile. besides,
its just too near a populated area.
BUT...you need to do some research on a much more remote and secure
launch site. it was located in the blanding and moab area and our
unit knew it as black mesa. now, that site was remote (i remember
driving our 2.5 tones 5 tons, and launchers literally up the side of
the mesa on a single lane dirt road) and could have also been
developed with permanent installations, as was the green river
complex, over the next 30 years. you might want to check it out. i
did two three month tours in a tent city on that site, too.
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BIGELOW AEROSPACE
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:34:47 +0000
Frm: [withheld by request]
To: webmaster@ufomind.com
Subject: Robert Bigelow info
Please be advised that Robert Bigelow has begun the launch of a new
company, who's website is available below.
http://www.bigelow-aerospace.com/
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HOLE OF DISCONTINUITY
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:30:36 -0500 (EST)
Frm: Todd <A4AREA51@aol.com>
Subject: Hole of Discontinuity
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/para/psi/pk/
I can't explain or justify what my abilities can do for me or others.
At least five things a day appear and repeat within a week. I stopped
a fire in my house because of clarity thinking telling me to get help
before a problem was apparent (Iwasn't even at home). I have vivid
dreams that are a form of reality (climate, more details than being
awake, word for word conversations, different views of reacurring
dreams like a Spielberg movie). Not sick for three years suddenly flu
like symptoms come over me in next room as grandfather passes on
5 min. later. Examples could write a book. Someone please help me find
some answers to why this could happen.
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CORONARYANOMALIES.COM
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 02:57:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: What's next from the Hoagland camp? Coronaryanomalies.com?
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/people/h/hoagland/
Hoagland has really gone off the deep end this time, blaming his heart
attack on some sort of voodoo curse from supernatural enemies who want
to see him silenced. Does anyone else see paranoia here?--seeing
connections between anything and everything, thinking everyone's out
to get him, etc. I had a friend in college who smoked a lot of pot and
started to act this way ...
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THE JAMES BOND/RICHARD HOAGLAND CONNECTION
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:25:09 -0400 (EDT)
Frm: David J. Rudometkin <www.rudometkin313@hotmail.com>
Subject: James Bond and Area 51
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/org/comment/
In the movie, "Diamonds are Forever" isn't it curious that James Bond
goes to that subterranean science research facility owned by Willard
White to find out about that killer satelllite, which is located
somewhere outside of Las Vegas? Isn't it also curious that when James
was running through WW's facility that he runs through a set of the
Moon. (Sort of falls in line with Richard Hoagland's theory on the
fake moon landing). Well, it's just a thought.
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HOAGLAND'S ERRONEOUS RESUME
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 10:33:43 -0500 (EST)
Frm: Don Krupp <donkrupp@hotmail.com>
Subject: Hoagland's Erroneous Resume
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/people/h/hoagland/
New URL: http://www.mufor.org/hoagland.htm
Hoagland's bio refers to his serving as the "Former Curator of
Astronomy and Space Science at the Springfield Museum of Science,
Springfield, Mass." Well, I contacted the museum and asked them if
this was true. Their reply:
"Thank you for your inquiry about Richard Hoagland. I have been trying
to track down the information you requested. We have been unable to
find a personnel record on anyone of that name."
In fact, Hoagland may have worked there on an occaqsional basis as a
planetarium lecturer, but he was never a permanent employee - and
certainly not Curator.
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GLOW-IN-THE-DARK SPACE MUCUS
Frm: Davidmlong@aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:35:26 EDT
Subject: alien
To: webmaster@ufomind.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Reply-To: Davidmlong@aol.com
I love your Alien UFO webpage! I was wondering if you could add Alien
Keychains & Space Mucus to the page. Its pretty cool, they both glow in the
dark. We get hundreds of thousands of UFO visitors and we will link to your
site in return.
http://www.everwonder.com/david/stuff/alienkeychain
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'RODS' ARE REAL
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:32:17 -0500 (EST)
Frm: Edward Lopez <skepticaled@webtv.net>
Subject: Rods are real entities, like it or not.
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/catalog/pub/ucvid/u118/
Since becoming familiar with videos of "rods" in the early '80s I've
become a "rod hunter" and in the past month I've found three "rods" in
new and old videotaped footage I've made off cable tv. It's ok for
Glenn Campbell to pooh-pooh something he doesn't understand but it's
really dumb to do so. See a "rod" for yourself; pay attention to the
off-center area of the tv screen particularly panoramas or areas of
open sky. E-mail me and I'll tell you where to see the 3 I have on
tape.
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SATAN'S PLAN TO DECEIVE THE WORLD
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:08:37 -0400 (EDT)
Frm: MCENDTIMES <MCENDTIMES@aol.com>
Subject: Aliens are Demons or Fallen Aliens
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/topic/bible/
New URL: http://members.aol.com/mcendtimes/extreme/index.htm
I believe the Lord gave me a "dreamvision" where he allowed me to see
an two actual UFOs and space aliens. I believe the Lord has revealed
to me that they are coming and they are not nice, they are demons.
Please see my website it tells about Satan's plan to deceive the world
and if possible the very elect:
http://members.aol.com/mcendtimes/extreme/index.htm
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ALIEN ATTACK OCT. 1999
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 01:02:21 +0900
Frm: dablehan <dablehan@ss5.inet-osaka.or.jp>
Subject: UFOs attacks humans soon
Sorry to send you a sudden mail. I would like to inform you of urgent
information. Ufos will attack humans on October 3,1999. It is natural
that you cannot believe such a news. US government,however,is to
announce it soon,this spring. You would like to know why I got such a
news,I believe. Please let me explain why the aliens will attack us
soon and how I got the news. I will send you as much information as
possible. I have a lot of proofs which proves the Ufos attack. There
is little time left before the attack. Please don't ignore this mail.
Please give me e-mail to order me to send such proofs. Please write as
follows.
<want to know about Ufos attack> There are HPs about it.
www02.so-net.ne.jp/~hpnsol00/index.html
http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwip8673/index.html#nost10
(mirror site)
Though English translations are attached to them,they may be a little
hard to understand,because they are translated by machine translator.
So I will send you the digest of the contents of HP translated by me.
Thank you.
dablehan(Takashi Yajima)
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DO THE FUNKY CHUPA
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:02:16 -0500 (EST)
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/para/fort/chupacabras/
Frm: <congas@aol.com>
NEW URL : http://www.chupacabra.cc
Hi there
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would love to recieve a link on your webpage. thankyou!
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UFO DEFENSE SATELLITES
Frm: AgentJN1@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:53:25 EST
To: [multiple recipients]
Subject: I Suggest You All Look...
This is Jon Nowinski, head of the SGRA. I am writing you today to
inform you of a site, and an odd list, which I feel you should all
observe. The site is called <A
HREF="http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/satellite.html">View from
Satellite</A> (http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/satellite.html). From
this amazing site you can access views and information about
satellites orbiting the earth. I would like to call your attention to
the list in which you can select the satellite you would like to view
from. Scroll down the list (in alphabetical order) and view the
listing of satellites named UFO Numbers 1 to 9. This is an alarming
revelation because we have received numerous reports in the past about
the satellites with these numbers being part of a UFO Defense System
which may have been seen in action during the famous STS-48 mission
footage (more information available from SGRA if you would like). In
any event, we felt that we should inform you about this page and
suggest you go visit.
God Speed,
Jon Nowinski
Smoking Gun Research Agency
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ROBERT TILTON
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:28:48 -0500 (EST)
Frm: DR Dre[CPT]
Subject: ROBERT TILTON IS THE BEST COMEDY ON TV!!
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/people/t/tilton/
People.. I am a 21 year old UMass student who has been watching Bobby
here for the past half year. It's on here at 4 in the morning...I must
say that when you are drunk as hell after being at a party all night,
Robert Tilton makes me want to stain my pants I laugh so hard
sometimes. If you take it for just sheer comedy, the show is worth
staying up for. All you need is a good Colt Ice 40 or 2 and the
ability to stay up til 5. And I tell you it gives the Devil a black
eye when I watch it..."Now that's a strong word...strong word.."
PRAISE JESUS!!!!!!!
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ART BELL -- PURE GOOD FUN
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:09:45 -0800
Frm: Truxton Meadows <trux@pentonoverseas.com>
To: "Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas" <campbell@ufomind.com>
Subject: The Question Everyone Asks....
I am an avid Art Bell listener. I believe maybe 3% of what he and his
guests say. The other 97% is just pure good fun at someone else's
expense for me! If you ever wondered why people would perpetrate a hoax
here's the answer: 'cause these people are hilarious! And they do it all
with a straight face, taking themselves seriously! Even when the hoax is
proven to be a hoax, they continue on. It just doesn't get any better
than this. I encourage all hoaxer to keep it up! These people line up
for it. You're giving their lives meaning, and giving many of us folks
just some great laughs!
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 03:13:01 -0500 (EST)
Frm: NOBODY <>
Subject: Sean No Longer Shares a Bed With Bell
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/people/m/morton/
artie IS NOW ALL MAD AT SEAN BECAUSE SEAN RAN OFF AND SOMEONE WAS
STUPID ENOUGH TO GIVE THE IDIOT HIS OWN RADIO PROGRAM. artie ISN'T TOO
HAPPY ABOUT THAT SO HE HAS COMPLETELY DISASSOCIATED HIMSELF WITH SEAN
AND HAS HAD ALL REFERENCE TO MORTON REMOVED FROM HIS WEBSITE. FUNNY
HOW artie HAD A PROBLEM WITH HIS FORMER BUDDY DAVID JOHN OATES GOING
AND DOING A RADIO PROGRAM, artie TOTALLY REMOVED OATES' NAME FROM HIS
WEBSITE. SO SINCE SEAN ISN'T KISSING artie's ASS OR FEEDING artie's
OVER INFLATED EGO HE WON'T BE BACK ON THE SHOW. WHO REALLY CARES
ANYWAY, THEY BOTH SUCK.
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:53:30 -0400 (EDT)
Frm: Moose
Subject: Art Bell
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/people/b/bell/
I use ta lissen to art Bell, but I hadda quit cuz my brane starded to
turn to mush...i callt it "the Thickening"
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MY LIFE IN PROSE
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:01:50 +0900
Frm: askir_2 <askir_2@Kuopio.Fi>
Subject: A shy spy in disguise.
They are the invisible men, wearing infrared camouflage suits. They are
walking along the Extraterrestrial Highway, close to Dreamland. You can
see them occasionally, when they fail to blend into the background. Now
there is a blur, then they are gone. There is a saucer-shaped
waverider. Its skin is derived from an electromagnetically conductive
polyaniline-based radar-absorbent composite material. It is optically
transparent, except when electrically charged. They arrest a group of
impersonators from Las Vegas. None of them is the King himself. Yet
those aliens have to sing a song and comb their hair. No wig is found.
You got to move on. You ride a motorcycle, when a triangular TR-3A
tactical reconnaissance jet is heading for Area 51, also known as Groom
Lake. You do not want to be seen with ufologists, crackpots, or the
worse ones. You are a genuine believer. You will reach Freedom Ridge.
And from the top all the way down, you can see hangars, a control tower,
fuel tanks, a long runway and unmarked Boeing 737s. You have a
telescope to look at Hangar 18. Suddenly, you see a black, delta-winged
aircraft. It is at least 130 feet long, and it must be hypersonic. Then
you stop looking, because you have a peculiar feeling that someone is
watching you all the time. As the sun rises, you catch a blur, then
another. But you are a cold-blooded person. So you have to think very
carefully, what you should do next. Well - you flee, leaving a dusty
cloud behind your motorcycle. The invisible men see that you are
another Elvis, a king of comedy in Las Vegas. But actually you are a
shy spy in disguise. Finally, you have a story about those
men-in-black: they will put the blame on the extraterrestrials.
(Written by Mr. Kari Toivanen, Kumpukatu 6 A 5, 70620 Kuopio 62,
Finland.)
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